a quote and sharif abdullah

I ran into this quote, which seems familiar, so I’m not sure but that it
might have shown up in PALOD, but it’s relevant anyway:

Cromwell: “I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you
may be wrong.”

Also, I noticed that New Dimensions, which runs on KAOS sunday mornings,
is possibly running an interview with Sharif Abdullah the week of Dec
15-21. So, you might be interested in checking that out.

nothing human is alien to me

So, I read, over the break, the book “How the Irish saved civilization”
by Thomas Cahill. I noticed a latin version of a quote from PALOD, which
appears to the source for the quote found in one of our readings.

Anyhow, the latin is “Homo sum: humani nil a me alienum puto” and comes from a Roman comedy by Terence.

I decided to do a search using google, and found this interesting site
that speaks about this quote:


Anyhow, I thought I’d share that.

Samhain – Spiral Dance ’03

Hail to the Guardians of the Watchtowers of the WEST
It is on bended knee, I pray
at the edge of your holy well
with lips and tongue partake
of your sacred water of life.
It is from the west I began
my journey to the light,
and in the 100 trillion sacred wells
of my body I carry your message
of peace and power,
of compassion and community.
It is is a morning dew of awe
that I thank you for my life.
It is in a tidal wave of joy
that I thank you for family,
friends and love.
Welcome WEST.
Blessed Be!

By the grace of you go I.
May I always taste you on my lips
and feel you in my heart.
Go if you must,
Stay if you will.
Hail and farewell.
Blessed Be!

J M Coetzee wins Nobel Prize

Saw this, and thought I’d mention it, since we read The Lives of Animals
in class. J M Coetzee has won the 2003 Nobel for Literature.


this is where

This is where my passion has gone
From a deathly fear of doing wrong
it has mellowed and aged as I have
litterally living in this hermit cave
I have no real remaining passion
except an addiction to masturbation
That is the true full circle I have travelled
from cherry brandy, from vagrant hotel
to wood finish wiskey and spider cave

Not a heroic Bruce, not a hero at all
Now I have an alienated clan and no right to rule

children’s crusade

an ablative shield of suffering
wave after wave of the sensitive
throwing themselves on swords of injustice

a children’s crusade

the shock and horror of disillusion
acting like a beacon in the dark
for those too jaded to see
how real the injustice is

and the sacrifice of the sensitive
creates the new need for new sufferers
as a reminder of how they used to be

[Fwd: Bill Moyers interview with Chris Hedges]

I’m going over the things that I’ve sent out (for my final) and wanted
to remind everyone about this e-mail I sent out mack in march about
Chris Hedges. We were talking about him this week again and how he was
recently booed off the stage from a graduation ceremony to which he was
asked as a speaker. Democracy Now did a bit about that when it happened, actually. Anyhow, I thought this might give you more background on the topic he was speaking about at the time.


—–Forwarded Message—–

> From: J G Bell
> To: Power & Limitations of Dialogue 2002-03
> Subject: Bill Moyers interview with Chris Hedges
> Date: 08 Mar 2003 21:59:40 -0800
> On yesterday’s NOW with Bill Moyers, the author of “War is a force that
> gives us meaning” Chris Hedges was interviewed.
> I highly recommend checking out the transcript to this interview if you
> didn’t catch the show. It’s quite relevant to our class and was a very
> powerful interview. I don’t know if it will be as impactful just reading
> it, but the interview on the show was very powerful.
> Here’s the link:
> http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hedges.html
> >
> Okay, I was going to cut and paste a few quotes, but it’s the whole
> interview so I stopped. It’s all relevant. Check it out, really.

another view on the nature of evil [Fwd: Master Course Lesson 47]

Interestingly this was sent to me today.

—–Forwarded Message—–

> Sloka 47 from Dancing with Siva
> Why Do Some Souls Act in Evil Ways?
> People act in evil ways who have lost touch with their soul nature and
> live totally in the outer, instinctive mind. What the ignorant see as
> evil, the enlightened see as the actions of low-minded and immature
> individuals. Aum.
> Bhashya
> Evil is often looked upon as a force against God. But the Hindu knows
> that all forces are God’s forces, even the waywardness of adharma. This
> is sometimes difficult to understand when we see the pains and problems
> caused by men against men. Looking deeper, we see that what is called evil
> has its own mysterious purpose in life. Yes, bad things do happen. Still,
> the wise never blame God, for they know these to be the return of
> man’s self-created karmas, difficult but necessary experiences for his
> spiritual evolution. Whenever we are injured or hurt, we understand
> that our suffering is but the fulfillment of a karma we once initiated,
> for which our injurer is but the instrument who, when his karma cycles
> around, will be the injured. Those who perform seemingly evil deeds
> are not yet in touch with the ever-present God consciousness of their
> immortal soul. The Vedas rightly admonish, “Borne along and defiled by
> the stream of qualities, unsteady, wavering, bewildered, full of desire,
> distracted, one goes on into the state of self-conceit. In thinking,
> ‘This is I’ and ‘That is mine’ one binds himself with himself, as does
> a bird with a snare.” Aum Namah Sivaya.

I also refer you to the previous forward from the same source I sent out
back on April 5th about the source of good and evil from a hindu
perspective. Similar but different …

If you missed Lysistrata, don’t miss Dr Strangelove on the 14th!

“Be part of a national anti-war action on May 14. Screen “Dr.
Strangelove,” and raise money for groups still working hard for peace,
justice and relief in Iraq.”


It might be a good “new” slogan they’ve reclaimed, “peace is our
profession.” What was originally irony (and in fact, if I remember
correctly, was a real billboard at the base, not something they made up
for the movie) might become an important vocation for the “cultural

It’s not direct action, but it’s about keeping the momentum going and
keeping people engaged.

[Fwd: [tesccrier] Student project – take our survey in red square- on tuesday!]

Robin & I will be doing part of our qtr project tomorrow and next
tuesday. If you know your Myers-Briggs type, stop by. If you don’t know
it, then take the online version of the personality test and then stop
by to take our survey!


—–Forwarded Message—–

> From: J G Bell
> To: Tesc Community Announcements
> Subject: [tesccrier] Student project – take our survey in red square on tuesday!
> Date: 05 May 2003 14:52:32 -0700
> Greetings,
> Do you know your myers-briggs personality type? Or would you be willing
> to take the short on-line version of the myers-briggs test?
> Would you help two students by filling out a very short survey? We’ll be
> at a table, either on red square or in the CAB is it’s raining, Tuesday
> 6th or Tuesday 13th between 11am and 2pm?
> As part of a project for our program, The Power and Limitations of
> Dialogue, another student and myself are looking for people to take a
> short survey that asks some questions about conflict management and life
> satisfaction based on myers-briggs types.
> If you don’t already know, or it’s been a while since you’ve tested,
> please take a moment to do the quick online version of the personality
> type test and then meet us at our table to take _our_ survey!
> The online version of the myers-briggs is here:
> http://www.personalitytype.com/quiz.html
> Please take a moment to find your type and then stop by our table to
> take our survey this Tuesday or next Tuesday between 11am and 2pm.
> Thanks!

[Fwd: us rep kuchinich’s speech]

Ia actually sent this out to a friend the other day. Here’s the links I
mentioned in class, that I would send out.

—–Forwarded Message—–

> http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0308-01.htm
> ” Kucinich, whose working-class district elected a conservative
> Republican before him, is confident Democrats from even the most
> competitive districts can safely join him in questioning the war. “The
> key,” he says, “is to recognize that there is a great deal of unity in
> America around some basic values: peace and security, protection of the
> planet, a good quality of life for themselves and for others. When
> people express their patriotism, they are not saying–as some would
> suggest–that they no longer believe in these things. There’s nothing
> unpatriotic about asserting human values and defending democratic
> principles. A lot of Americans are telling me this is the highest form
> of patriotism.” ”
> http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0226-09.htm
> “The trappings of a state of siege trap us in a state of fear,
> ill-equipped to deal with the Patriot Games, the Mind Games, the War
> Games of an unelected President and his unelected Vice President.
> Let us pray that our country will stop this war. “To promote the common
> defense” is one of the formational principles of America.
> Our Congress gave the President the ability to respond to the tragedy
> of September 11. We licensed a response to those who helped bring the
> terror of September 11th. But we the people and our elected
> representatives must reserve the right to measure the response, to
> proportion the response, to challenge the response, and to correct the
> response.
> Because we did not authorize the invasion of Iraq.
> We did not authorize the invasion of Iran.
> We did not authorize the invasion of North Korea.
> We did not authorize the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan.
> We did not authorize permanent detainees in Guantanamo Bay.
> We did not authorize the withdrawal from the Geneva Convention.
> We did not authorize military tribunals suspending due process and
> habeas corpus.
> We did not authorize assassination squads.
> We did not authorize the resurrection of COINTELPRO.
> We did not authorize the repeal of the Bill of Rights.
> We did not authorize the revocation of the Constitution.
> We did not authorize national identity cards.
> We did not authorize the eye of Big Brother to peer from cameras
> throughout our cities.
> We did not authorize an eye for an eye.
> Nor did we ask that the blood of innocent people, who perished on
> September 11, be avenged with the blood of innocent villagers in
> Afghanistan.
> We did not authorize the administration to wage war anytime,
> anywhere,anyhow it pleases.
> We did not authorize war without end.
> We did not authorize a permanent war economy.”
> “This has everything to do with fueling a military industrial machine
> with the treasure of our nation, risking the future of our nation,
> risking democracy itself with the militarization of thought which
> follows the militarization of the budget.”
> “Let us pray for our children. Our children deserve a world without
> end. Not a war without end. Our children deserve a world free of the
> terror of hunger, free of the terror of poor health care, free of the
> terror of homelessness, free of the terror of ignorance, free of the
> terror of hopelessness, free of the terror of policies which are
> committed to a world view which is not appropriate for the survival of a
> free people, not appropriate for the survival of democratic values, not
> appropriate for the survival of our nation, and not appropriate for the
> survival of the world.”
> etc …

cultural creatives quote from recent UTNE e-mail

A quote a recent UTNE e-mail that relates to the cultural creatives

“DESPITE HAVING SPENT a decade and a half writing about radical social
movements, I am only just beginning to see what has animated, motivated,
and knitted together those gatherings of aggrieved folks. I have come to
realize that once we strip radical social movements down to their bare
essence and understand the collective desires of people in motion,
freedom and love lie at the very heart of the matter.”

– Robin Kelley, NYU professor, in New Internationalist (Nov. 2002)


Funny is a very sad way because it has the appearance of being deep, but
it’s really not.


“The Unknown”

As we know,
There are known knowns.
There are things we know we know.
We also know
There are known unknowns.
That is to say
We know there are some things
We do not know.
But there are also unknown unknowns,
The ones we don’t know
We don’t know.

– Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing

A Confession

Once in a while,
I’m standing here, doing something.
And I think,
“What in the world am I doing here?”
It’s a big surprise.

—May 16, 2001, interview with the New York Times

ignoring our essential selves? [Fwd: Master Course Lesson 358]

This is one answer from Hinduism to the question Gloria had the other
day about whether we would be ignoring our essential natures. The
answer, I think, is similar to this in Buddhism. It’s about the higher
self and instinctual self, and the needs we have for each part of the

Sloka 48 from Dancing with Siva

What Is the Source of Good and Evil?

Instead of seeing good and evil in the world, we understand the nature of the embodied soul in three interrelated parts: instinctive or physical-emotional; intellectual or mental; and superconscious or spiritual. Aum.


Evil has no source, unless the source of evil’s seeming be ignorance itself. Still, it is good to fear unrighteousness. The ignorant complain, justify, fear and criticize “sinful deeds,” setting themselves apart as lofty puritans. When the outer, or lower, instinctive nature dominates, one is prone to anger, fear, greed, jealousy, hatred and backbiting. When the intellect is prominent, arrogance and analytical thinking preside. When the superconscious soul comes forth the refined qualities are born–compassion, insight, modesty and the others. The animal instincts of the young soul are strong. The intellect, yet to be developed, is nonexistent to control these strong instinctive impulses. When the intellect is developed, the instinctive nature subsides. When the soul unfolds and overshadows the well-developed intellect, this mental harness is loosened and removed. When we encounter wickedness in others, let us be compassionate, for truly there is no intrinsic evil. The Vedas say, “Mind is indeed the source of bondage and also the source of liberation. To be bound to things of this world: this is bondage. To be free from them: this is liberation.” Aum Namah Sivaya.

Tough Guise video on April 17th

Here’s a link to a description of this video I mentioned will be in
Lecture Hall 1, April 17th at 6pm – 9pm. Discussion will follow, I


Jackson Katz will be at TESC April 22nd 7:30pm until 9:30pm

If you need special assistance or info give the TESC Office of Sexual
Assault Prevention a call 360 867 5221.

media watch – manufactured news again

Here’s an article that I just had to send out. It’s about the difference
between what you see on a “real” television broadcast and what’s really
going on, how the war announcement was exposed as being a facade of
concern, etc …


Re: my daily reflection for you

And the traditional greeting when seeing someone for the first time or when seeing someone you haven’t seen in a long time is, “Shalom Aleichem,” which means “peace unto you.”

And the Islamic greeting is: Assalaamu aleykum

I don’t know why I never made that connection before.

When two people work in harmony, they bring out the best in each other. And when there is harmony in an organization or a community, everyone brings out the best in each other.

And this sounds like “alignment” … and “learning community” in the
second part.

And we are all very different at our best than we are at our worst.

And this mirrors the idea that we are not our worst acts, as in “Dead
Man Walking”


Bill Moyers interview with Chris Hedges

On yesterday’s NOW with Bill Moyers, the author of “War is a force that
gives us meaning” Chris Hedges was interviewed.

I highly recommend checking out the transcript to this interview if you
didn’t catch the show. It’s quite relevant to our class and was a very
powerful interview. I don’t know if it will be as impactful just reading
it, but the interview on the show was very powerful.

Here’s the link:

Okay, I was going to cut and paste a few quotes, but it’s the whole
interview so I stopped. It’s all relevant. Check it out, really.

Robin’s systems thinking resources

I have been gathering resources for Systems thinking,
and here is my in-progress incomplete list thus far.
Many of the book I have not yet read, and am in the
process of getting either through the library or by
sitting in the bookstore and reading them ;-).
Please look at the website and books if they interest

Ecology of the Mind

Mental Model Musings


Centre for Systems Studies

International Institute for General Systems Studies

Centre for Partnership Studies

Human Systems Dynamics Institute

The International Institute for Applied Systems

International Society for the Systems Science

-Birth of the Chaordic Age by Dee W. Hock

-A Simpler Way by Margaret J. Wheatley, Myron

-Billibonk and the Big Itch by Phil Ramsey, Robin.
Mazo (this is a childrens book, supposedly about
systems thinking)

-Principles of Systems by Jay Wright Forrester (Senge
based many of his ideas on Forrester)

-The Systems View of the World: A Holistic Vision for
Our Time (Advances in Systems Theory, Complexity, and
the Human Sciences) by Ervin Laszlo

-Small Worlds by Duncan J. Watts

-Emergence by Steven Johnson (about alignment)

-The Art of Systems Thinking by Joseph O’Connor, Ian

-Systems Thinking by Jamshid Gharajedaghi

-Calling the Circle by Christina Baldwin, Colleen M.
Kelley (about dialogue circles)